Comments on: Dems are Pushing when they should be Pulling http://www.clubrelaford.com/roostertalk/uncategorized/2007/07/23/dems-are-pushing-when-they-should-be-pulling/ The official blog of Club Relaford Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:27:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: The Centrist http://www.clubrelaford.com/roostertalk/uncategorized/2007/07/23/dems-are-pushing-when-they-should-be-pulling/#comment-22 The Centrist Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:48:06 +0000 http://www.clubrelaford.com/roostertalk/uncategorized/2007/07/23/dems-are-pushing-when-they-should-be-pulling/#comment-22 Feingold and Kucinich should keep the ashes warm, whether they actually get censure or impeachment on the floor or not for the next 18-months. The more Republican Congresspersons support the Bush Administration's 30% approval rated policies, they will only further solidify their minority status in 2008. 70% of the American public are against the Democratic majority Congress...wimping out...which is a bad sign for Republicans. I love the current debate because for the past six-years there has been absolute silence. Just think about all of the highly questionable actions the Bush administration has admitted to since Democrats have been in the majority. Remember the illegal wiretapping...Yeah, we did it, but the law should be changed!!! Yeah, we outed a CIA agent, but she was in the U.S. at the time that we did. Yeah, we promised Congress we would get permission from the U.N. before we would invade Iraq. So what that somebody fired USAG's, without the knowledge of the President. Feingold and Kucinich should keep the ashes warm, whether they actually get censure or impeachment on the floor or not for the next 18-months. The more Republican Congresspersons support the Bush Administration’s 30% approval rated policies, they will only further solidify their minority status in 2008. 70% of the American public are against the Democratic majority Congress…wimping out…which is a bad sign for Republicans.

I love the current debate because for the past six-years there has been absolute silence. Just think about all of the highly questionable actions the Bush administration has admitted to since Democrats have been in the majority. Remember the illegal wiretapping…Yeah, we did it, but the law should be changed!!! Yeah, we outed a CIA agent, but she was in the U.S. at the time that we did. Yeah, we promised Congress we would get permission from the U.N. before we would invade Iraq. So what that somebody fired USAG’s, without the knowledge of the President.

]]> By: Ben Weathers http://www.clubrelaford.com/roostertalk/uncategorized/2007/07/23/dems-are-pushing-when-they-should-be-pulling/#comment-21 Ben Weathers Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:50:19 +0000 http://www.clubrelaford.com/roostertalk/uncategorized/2007/07/23/dems-are-pushing-when-they-should-be-pulling/#comment-21 Todd, I enjoyed reading your blog and certainly appreciated your point of view while using the anecdote about Lyndon Johnson as a back-drop. I totally agree with you that Democrats and Republicans should be working towards a bipartisan solution to Iraq, and now that leaders from both party's have publicly expressed a need for a change in course, now is indeed the time especially with the body count continuing to rise... However, I personally do not feel that censures or impeachment should be taken off the table just to attract Republicans to the anti-war cause. If there is sufficient evidence to make a case against any member of Federal government, not excluding the President or Vice President. If indeed there is adequate evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Bush administration acted not only recklessly but illegally, violating the Constitution-partisan politics should be put on hold for a second. Now, I know that anyone reading this can turn the argument around on me and say that talk of censurwa and impeachment is in itself a partisan scheme, but I think most the American public now agrees that the Bush administration has acted irresponsibly with in regards to it's execution of the war in Iraq-is it really that hard to believe that laws may have been broken and the constitution violated? I would encourage Club Relaford's readers to at least hear guys like Feingold and Kucinich out. You don't have to agree with them, but why should censures and impeachment be taken off the table? Todd,
I enjoyed reading your blog and certainly appreciated your point of view while using the anecdote about Lyndon Johnson as a back-drop.
I totally agree with you that Democrats and Republicans should be working towards a bipartisan solution to Iraq, and now that leaders from both party’s have publicly expressed a need for a change in course, now is indeed the time especially with the body count continuing to rise…
However, I personally do not feel that censures or impeachment should be taken off the table just to attract Republicans to the anti-war cause. If there is sufficient evidence to make a case against any member of Federal government, not excluding the President or Vice President.
If indeed there is adequate evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Bush administration acted not only recklessly but illegally, violating the Constitution-partisan politics should be put on hold for a second.
Now, I know that anyone reading this can turn the argument around on me and say that talk of censurwa and impeachment is in itself a partisan scheme, but I think most the American public now agrees that the Bush administration has acted irresponsibly with in regards to it’s execution of the war in Iraq-is it really that hard to believe that laws may have been broken and the constitution violated?
I would encourage Club Relaford’s readers to at least hear guys like Feingold and Kucinich out. You don’t have to agree with them, but why should censures and impeachment be taken off the table?

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